Call me crazy - Ranchero's (again)

**Jeff W** · November 1st, 2020, 02:29 PM

I’m sure she would be pleased to make you happy. My mom passed At the end of September.

What color are you going with? Ghost flames?

**Ric** · November 2nd, 2020, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff W

I’m sure she would be pleased to make you happy. My mom passed At the end of September.

What color are you going with? Ghost flames?

It is being done in medium / dark grey with extra metalic. Later when I get all the chrome back on I will be looking for a good penstriper to add some red highlights. the interrior is black with red accents already.

**Luva65wagon** · November 3rd, 2020, 02:11 PM

My thread seems to have diverged in some way...

**Luva65wagon** · November 3rd, 2020, 02:21 PM

It's nearly put back together. Having issues getting the brakes to bleed with the new M/C so I decided, since I have to pull the M/C again anyway, to go ahead and install a couple things some folks on Facebook suggested - proportioning valve and residual valve. Plus, went with a different M/C recommended elsewhere. They are due today from Summit. Ordered on Sunday, due today. Wow.

Also changing out the fuel pump. Seems it doesn't like to start after sitting for a couple weeks unless I prime it. So, hopefully a new (mechanical) fuel pump helps. If not, I have the bits ready to add a supplementary electric fuel pump to prime - if it comes to that. I need to study this new Demon carburetor a bit too. Might be the float is sticking.

Have to cross my fingers and hope the exhaust fits the same with the new headers (same brand, different application). The passenger side should be in the same place, but the drivers side might differ. So might have to do some cutting and welding to get that hooked back up.

**Luva65wagon** · November 3rd, 2020, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by BadBird

Everything is looking great. So very sorry to hear of your mother's passing. Take care my friend. Larry

Thanks Larry. Looking forward to seeing whether you find a new car to build... and we can participate in some way.

**Luva65wagon** · November 14th, 2020, 01:07 AM

Well... I spent a crazy amount of time making a fan shroud. I bought a 65 Mustang fan shroud thinking it would be somewhat close, but not even. So after some cutting and hacking, and taking a fan warning shroud off of some 1980 Ford I scored at some PickNPull years ago I made a clam-shell style shroud. Came out pretty nice.

Then off came the "new" master cylinder I could not get to function correctly - and after some query on a few Falcon sites decided to change to a different master cylinder and am adding a proportioning valve and a 10 lb residual valve for the rear. I'm hoping it helps. It's all work I would have preferred doing while the motor was out. Double flares over the fender and through the woods is not very fun. Should have the new lines made tomorrow to get the master cylinder in.

Everything else up-top is done; next comes the remaining wiring for the EPS and tach and get the seat back in (will make bleeding the brakes easier) and then the underside exhaust and clutch slave bleeding. Then V-ROOOM!

**BadBird** · November 14th, 2020, 01:16 AM

Getting kind of full looking in there. Wow I love the looks and hope it runs as good as it looks. Should come to Arizona and drag race when I get another car. Larry

**SmithKid** · November 14th, 2020, 12:30 PM

WOW! That shroud looks great. Seems like it'd be worth lotsa time if it does the job, and I suspect it will.

**Luva65wagon** · November 15th, 2020, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by BadBird

Getting kind of full looking in there. Wow I love the looks and hope it runs as good as it looks. Should come to Arizona and drag race when I get another car. Larry

Not sure I'd be driving it to Arizona anytime soon, but maybe Kent. It ran really well - just too may interference fits I "gained" when I swapped from the 289 to the 347. And of course it's looking full; because I didn't cut out the shock towers... like some people did.

With all I've done during this Covid phase of work I have more clearance in areas I never thought I could ever have. Very odd, but not complaining since it's all gooder now. I suspect it will run as well as before, but with some gained reliability.

I did get a bit of a DOH! today when I went to bleed the brakes (before putting the interior back together; couldn't resist) and like before, when I had Gene here helping me, I couldn't get them bled. The pedal would always just sink to the floor.

So I took a seat and sulked a bit.

Then went back and looked at all the fittings and bleeders and - BAM! - it was such a dumb mistake. These new Wilwood disc calipers have bleeders on both the front and rear sides and lower and upper. 4 bleeders on each caliper and you have to do the upper bleeders on each side. I was only bleeding one half of each side. Problem solved. DOH! But glad I did the other things.

Now onto putting the interior stuff back in a wiring up the electric power steering module and wrap up tidying up under the dash.

**Luva65wagon** · November 29th, 2020, 12:46 AM

Well, Ranchero go VRoom! again today. Sadly it had the same issue as before getting it to start while cold. I've had to squirt fuel into the bowl anytime it sat for a few days to get it to fire off. And then a couple more times if really cold.

I've tried a few different carburetors on this 347 to get it to wake up and finally settled on this Street Demon carburetor. Reviews were great and when I first installed it - all the reviews seemed to pan out. Then it sat for quite some time as my garage was being built and now that I've reworked it all I decided to get to the bottom of this.

After watching a couple videos on YouTube University I saw a couple people talking about the accelerator pump "hose" inside the bowl being loose, so I went over and looked down the throat of the carb and pumping the gas saw zip, nada, nothing. Fuel had to be in there - it was running just 20 minutes earlier. So off came the carb for an internal inspection. What I found was both amazing - and irritating.

Street Demon 625cfm, 100 miles old.
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Accelerator Pump Hose. Is a little loose, but couldn't say it would make zero fuel action.
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This is the accelerator pump housing.
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I saw in one video where the guy said to make sure to cut the nubbin off the end of this one-way valve part when replacing it with a new one. Looking closer...
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... I noticed the depth of the bowl (represented by the end of the calipers) was not deep enough to not compress this rubber nubbin.
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So I pushed the cap off, as instructed, and did a test. I blew at this valve to see if it was closing and then pushed on the rubber nubbin as though it was being pressed by the bottom of the bowl - and it leaked as if not there.
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If you look close you can see the umbrella part raise off the fitting when I press the nubbin into the table.
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I also noticed the nubbin was near to break off. I have a kit - so it's being replaced. But I had to come up with a solution. So I verified the bowl depth and thickness and made a relief in the bowl.
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Drill set to a stop and now there is room for the nubbin. I still have to reassemble, but I'm confident in the solution and will be reaching out to Demon this week to let them know they have an engineering problem.
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**Jeff W** · November 29th, 2020, 01:41 PM

Good find and nice detail. Hope the company gives you some credit both financially and intellectually.

**Luva65wagon** · November 30th, 2020, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff W

Hope the company gives you some credit both financially and intellectually.

Ha! That'll be the day.

I'm still working on it - got derailed on home projects - but it's getting closer.

**BadBird** · December 1st, 2020, 01:18 AM

Looking great. And who would cut the shock towers out of a perfectly good Falcon. Shame. LOL. Side note. Scott's brother bought the 63 so I am still on the prowl for a 63 hardtop. Not much out there right now, maybe I'll get lucky? Keep up the great work. Larry

**Luva65wagon** · December 2nd, 2020, 01:33 AM

Don't discount a future sedan. They can be made to look really nice. Just saw this one on Facebook. Like how they used hardtop trim. Really makes the look of the car change.

**BadBird** · December 2nd, 2020, 10:58 AM

I am indeed looking at every round body out there on craigslist, ebay and facebook even has a site for old gassers for sale. I haven't even ruled out a 64-65. Most are just as you mentioned earlier. No rust, big bucks. Little rust, big bucks and then junk. I will find one and have really been searching drag racing sites looking for cars that are rollers. The car that Scott's brother bought will make a great car, just didn't get first dibs.

Larry