'62 Falcon Refresh

[Luva65wagon]

No worries. You had the right to point out what you saw. I've looked at the thing quite closely before and can see why it's been negated in so many rebuilds (from reputable rebuilders). I followed their lead based upon my own study of these things. I suspect it was similar to the 2100 and 4100 which originally had open vents and due to EPA regulations had to have these vents "plugged" while at idle.

[dkutz]

Was not worried about the vent rod, since he said he was gonna plug it, which was quite common. So either way on that for me doesn’t matter. However while doing some research I found not only is the rod reproduced but champion carbs remake the lever.

[Luva65wagon]

I remember Champion now that I've been back to look again. I thought then what I thought today - 'they want a lot of money for their (expiative).' All I can say (from casual observation) is the carburetor you're getting looks way better than the example they are using as something they sell; i.e., their manual choke 1100. Problem is that there are now China copies of the Autolite 1100 and now folks expect rebuilt originals to sell that cheaply. Shoot, Champion will charge you more than the cost of a China carb... just as a core charge! Yikes!

Anyway, not sure I'm gonna spend $50 to add a vent to these cores if/when I get to building them. I might get 3 rods from Mike's ($5 cheaper each than Champion) to match the levers I have, but the others will get plugged if I build them at all.

[dkutz]

I remember Champion now that I've been back to look again. I thought then what I thought today - 'they want a lot of money for their (expiative).' All I can say (from casual observation) is the carburetor you're getting looks way better than the example they are using as something they sell; i.e., their manual choke 1100. Problem is that there are now China copies of the Autolite 1100 and now folks expect rebuilt originals to sell that cheaply. Shoot, Champion will charge you more than the cost of a China carb... just as a core charge! Yikes!

Anyway, not sure I'm gonna spend $50 to add a vent to these cores if/when I get to building them. I might get 3 rods from Mike's ($5 cheaper each than Champion) to match the levers I have, but the others will get plugged if I build them at all.

Either way is fine for me. Sounds like ti will work way and I trust your prior knowledge. Can't wait to get the carb and can't thank you enough for all your help!!

[dkutz]

Busy day. New tires arrived! And we greased the steering box. New carb is on the way! Excited to see progress!

[Luva65wagon]

It's still poopy rain up here for a while. Staying warm in the garage for a couple more months.

Be sure to show off your new things... or cuss me out if the carb pukes.

[dkutz]

It's still poopy rain up here for a while. Staying warm in the garage for a couple more months.

Be sure to show off your new things... or cuss me out if the carb pukes.

here are the tires. I will get mounted on Monday.

and if the carb pukes I will cry.

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[Falcongek]

Nice, looks like maxxis tyres.
What size?
I've got these waiting for my rim redo.IMG-20210111-WA0000.jpg

Switching to 185/90R13's

[dkutz]

Nice, looks like maxxis tyres.
What size?
I've got these waiting for my rim redo.IMG-20210111-WA0000.jpg

Switching to 185/90R13's

185/80r13. Why you going to 90? And yes they are maxxis

[Falcongek]

whoopsie typo, they're 80's

[dkutz]

New tires! Looks good. Rpm is better. But Speedo is still like 5mph off. Do I need to change the speedo gear, or just live with it?598FB9F1-EF05-484E-A813-74CF0ACA8F47.jpeg

[Luva65wagon]

Looking good! Carb should be in town now according to tracking it this morning.

5 MPH off may get closer with a one tooth different than current, more or less. If 5MPH fast, then get a gear with one more tooth to slow it down. If slow, a gear with one less tooth to speed it up. You need to pull the speedo cable from the transmission and count how many teeth it currently has, and if it twists left or twists right.

[Luva65wagon]

Well, sadly Bob is winning the "make life rough on Dieter" game. He received the carburetor I sent him only to find the thing flooded. The "new" float I used leaked - even after testing it here before shipping it. So I sent another, after testing and setting it up on another 1100 I have, and it still ran like crap. So after a couple dozen forth and back PM's trying to sort things - I had him send it back with the agreement if I had an Ah Ha! discovery I'd fix it and send it back. I couldn't find anything other than the float I sent was somehow bent between "here and here."

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This is how it was setup when I set it up on the mock carburetor here. You bend the small tab, not the long arm, to adjust it. You want the float near level:

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Because I wasn't sure that would have caused the issue he was having with it (it still measured close to the right height, though backwards) - he's back to square one with his old one, which oddly didn't run correctly when it was reinstalled either. He just got the parts to fix it today, so he'll have to ring in on the outcome of that.

So yesterday I came across a Facebook thread about these new China 1100 carburetors (I've been eying them a long while) and a couple guys are saying they've had good luck with them.

So, Dieter, here's an offer. If you get one of these and it doesn't work... I'll buy it off you. I've been wanting to get one just to see how well they're made, or not. So, it might be a win/win for you either way. If it works... WIN! If it doesn't... I'll buy it off you. WIN! (Almost).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-...Cclp%3A2334524

The only thing about it (from the ad photo) is they have the choke cable coming in from the wrong (passenger) side. This should be reversible by removing the clip on the fast idle cam to remove it and then the screw/stud behind removed and the choke clamp flipped as well as the cam. Or just get the longer choke cable and approach it from the passenger side as it's setup. It has the Spark Advance Control Valve on it (assuming it's doing the right thing), so it should work. I can't find any other specs on it.

Anyway, sorry mine didn't work for you, but maybe the new eBay one will?

[dkutz]

Roger thanks for all your help. I am not sure why your carb didn't like me, but it didn't. BTW I DID NOT do anything to your replacement float, I installed it, the height looked right so I left it alone.

My old 1940 is messed up because I DROPPED it when I took it out. Hopefully all will be good today when I put a couple new parts on it. I really wan tot get Bob running again Mainly so I can get the tranny sorted.

[Luva65wagon]

I'm not placing blame. I have no idea what happened to it; only pointing out what I saw when I opened it up. It was glaring to me. This only means it would have been glaring to me as well when I set up the replacement float before I sent it. Anyway, I chalk this up to being just a series of unfortunate events Bob put us both through. When you check and double check - and then check and double check a second time and have yet another bizarre thing happen; what else can you do?

Of course this is mostly in jest trying to find answers where there are none available to us. No matter. We'll all watch and await the outcome as you move forward. What did you think of the carburetor I sent the link for?